Made in China
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Permalink Reply by John T Wylie Jr on -
Boker USA is the name of the company , it's not called " Boker USA Made " ;)-
Look hard , and you will find that many of the manufactures in the US have products made outside of the US.
Buck used to have some of their models made overseas , same with Spyderco , Emersons Hard Wear line , Kershaw , and of course Cold Steel which has all their products made outside of the US.
I have nothing against foreign made , but if you are going to balk at a knife made outside of the US , prepare to do the same for your computer (none made in the USA), your tv and even your car. Just because it says Chevy or Dodge , doesnt mean it was made in the US , it may be made in Mexico or Canada.
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Permalink Reply by Dan Allen on -
Amen to the looking hard part. I purchased some knives a few years back called US Classics. Guess where they were made ? I had only myself to blame. I didn't read all of the description. The quality of the knives was fine . With the price being what it was I had to be a dummy for thinking it was US made. I have made a choice to purchase US made if I have a choice. On alot of items we no longer have that choice.
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Permalink Reply by Jeffery E. Wagner on -
But this is a knife discussion. There have been many post and articles in the field of knives about Foreign made (China) junk over running our fine American made products. My Lincoln was made in Deerborne, my Dodge was made in Detroit. My knives will not come from, China...comrade.
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Permalink Reply by glenn s. on
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All the prejudice against foreign-made knives stems from ignorance of economics and the benefits of free trade. Read the blog "Cafe Hayek" for a few days and you'll learn why buying good products from quality manufacturers no matter where they're located benefits everyone overall.
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Permalink Reply by Robt.E.Hawkins on
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This issue is making me crazy!Bud K recently had a "Marine Combat" K-Bar knock-off for ten bucks...It took me three tries to get them to admit it was made in china.Elusive at first,I was told "overseas".My father was a Marine at the Chosin Resevoir when the Chinese crossed the Yalu river...Franklin Mint is guilty of the same...a statuette of a Marine,Garand in hand,crossed bandoliers of ammo on chest...opened the box,made in China!Sent it right back!Are thes people crazy?does cheap labor mean SO much that we take American jobs to Commies so they spit in the face of our heroes and patriots??? S--t! Hawk out.
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Permalink Reply by Robt.E.Hawkins on
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And Glenn,you can read whatever you want for as many days as you want,but the "ignorant"don't read between the lines or think outside the box.Come to your own conclusions,adapt and form a course of action.
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Permalink Reply by David Bechard on
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For me the concern regarding Chinese made products is the quality control. Ever heard of the Chinese drywall problem or the Chinese lead paint toys? Who knows what kind of metal they could be using for the blades or what they may be using for handle materials! When everyone's fingers start falling off it'll be too late! Seriously, it's not economic ignorance, good quality is good quality, I just want to be sure of the quality I am getting which you just can't when it comes to Chinese goods.
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Permalink Reply by Derespina Knives on -
As a knife maker who's attempted to break into the factory business. I can say with several years of research on the matter that the reason companies manufacture over seas is because the cost to produce a run of US made factory made knives is at least 3 times the cost to produce the same knives overseas(in some instances 5 times as much). It's sad but true that our cost of living, our standard of living exceeds those of other countries many times. Thus the manufacturing cost, the wages, the prestige of having made in the USA stamped on your knife is actually very costly. granted US made knives are always ahead of the curve in quality and materials. However, it makes it near impossible for the average person to start their own company, producing affordable products for mass consumption. RE: materials used.... the Contract-ee get's disclosure as to what materials will be used, and you actually have a choice between materials when using over seas manufacturers. There's no lead pain on knives and g10 scales are g10 scales in any country. "Stainless steel" is still stainless steel the world over. So you're not buying toxic products when you buy a foreign knife.
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Permalink Reply by David Bechard on
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Drywall wall is drywall and I am sure nobody signed off to receive toys with lead paint on them. Just because the manufacturer provides a disclosure of what materials are being used do you really think they feel obligated to use them?
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Permalink Reply by John T Wylie Jr on
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While stainless maybe stainless wherever you go , what type of exact type stainless and the heat treat used is unknown. You can't expect Benchmade quality at a MTECH price , know what you are buying , if you are satisfied with the quality for the price then you are in good shape.
In the US we want a higher quality of living , so yes products made here will cost more. We may want to pay less , but does that mean it should come at the cost of those workers making less money , or the company making less profit ?
Ain't no such thing as a free lunch , you want US made , be ready to pony up a bit more $$. If you don't care where it is made , then you have many options. I have turned down buying things for lack of quality or a price to value ratio that I felt was off , but never just based on place of manufacture.
Do your homework before you buy , the info is out there.
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Permalink Reply by Hugh White on
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I hold an MBA so I am not ignorant when it comes to economics and free trade. Manufacturers of all products have shifted their production to Communist China to avoid the US Corporate tax structure and increase their profit margins. There are a number of knife makers that actually manufacture their knives in the US. We need to support their efforts by making a personal decision not to buy Chinese made knives or other Chinese products. Its time to stand up and be counted. Let the manufacturers know we have had enough.
glenn s. said:
All the prejudice against foreign-made knives stems from ignorance of economics and the benefits of free trade. Read the blog "Cafe Hayek" for a few days and you'll learn why buying good products from quality manufacturers no matter where they're located benefits everyone overall.
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Permalink Reply by Doug Metzger on
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I'm amazed at the scapegoating and prejudice of the Knife community or is it ignorance? Marketing a product with all or some of it's components made overseas or out of the US is not new and calling it or implying it's US just look to, Ford, Chrysler and GM. Toyota and Hyundai have been more American made than the big three in parts and labor. Like the Japanese before, China is now new scapegoat for our problems. In both cases, Japan and China, we provided the technology to produce what they produce and they are now beating us. Both have had deserved reputation problems but their quality has dramatically improved and products as well. Is it now just prejudice or ignorance in the knife community? Is it just sour grapes? The knife industry will never return to the US. They are beating us and we educated them and they are doing it better than we are. The fact that many US companies are buying and fabricating in China is simply following the money. The US consumer will never pay the prices for a knife made in the US, they are voting with their wallets. Demand for union wages, regulations in the steel industry, has driven out business in the US. The consumer will not sustain the inflated prices of products made in the US. Ironically labor problems are also driving up product prices in China. China's biggest problem is labor prices shooting up. Manufacturers can't keep their labor force because of competition. Now countries like Vietnam are beating out China for cheap labor. As long as someone is hungry enough, and I mean hungry, they will work for less to feed their family. There is an answer. I'm in the knife industry and have sold hundreds of thousands of knives, I'm not ignorant of the problem, I take business away from China as well as I'm experensed in doing business with China but complaining about their manufacturing is fruitless and counterproductive. Adapt, change and be smarter.
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